Krishnamurti Interview
The Internet can be a terrific tool, especially when it gives us the possibility to listen to such rare and valuable wisdom as in this jewel: the Krishnamurti Interview by British Journalist Bernard Levin on YouTube.
Reading is one thing – and normally I prefer that – however, here we literally see how fundamental thoughts and responses to questions any searching mind has, evolve into responses and answers… an amazing visual process of one of the most brilliant and enlightened minds of our times, who unfortunately passed on on 17 February 1986 at age 90. It could only be topped by having been there live… experiencing the ‘light’… but a gracious donor on YouTube is gifting anyone who is ready to look, to see, to understand…. at whatever level… with these 30 minutes of life lived without conflict – that alone is remarkable.
Bernard Levin deserves our respect for bridging so well the apparently defined and the vague, the spiritual and the profane, the here and the there… to define a path where there is none – yet having the presence of mind to close the circle with a solution ‘normal humans’ can work with.
I just have to share this and I think of our friend Laetitia Paris, who is celebrating an important birthday with a ’0′ today. Listen and watch with sincerity and awareness… and observe what it sets in motion within you… the action, the processing, possibly the transformation… without pressure. Just be…
“You don’t choose if you are clear.”
Krishnamurti Interview
It is fascinating to see different approaches to concepts deeply engraved into the pattern of our knowledge… our experience… our conditioning. It takes an inquiring mind, courage and openness to shed one’s skin and embrace the Unknown. The Krishnamurti Interview confronts us with a very different approach in many areas of our life… including Meditation.
I am thinking of this especially as my yoga class with a terrific yoga teacher – Leora Leibovitz – always starts with a brief meditation – basically to ‘arrive’ in the here and the now and ‘on the mat’. After this we choose a topic to define a clear intent for the yogic exercises. It is amazing how each individual body then processes this intent, which clearly reflects in its ability to move – or not to move…yet, to flow – or not to flow… yet – and to express based on its individual ( ? ) life story through the different yoga positions… some of them seemingly trivial, but definitely always with a very clear purpose within the deep physical, emotional and spiritual cleansing process.
Today’s thoughts brought up the concept of likening the body to a computer and our memories, emotions, experiences, the roles we play and our social conditioning etc to different packs of software and programs, some of them running over and over again… and how it’s up to us to identify and kick destructive programs out… to travel lighter…which obviously lead to the idea: what remains if we kick it all out?
Tempting, isn’t it?
On a long walk on the beach under the most glorious sunshine we continued the thoughts, especially as my question is: who or what puts the PC on in the first place?
This brought us to Krishnamurti and his teachings, in which I found another thought-provoking statement, within his last Interview on 4th January 1986 in Madras, India, where he spoke amongst other topics about the effect of technology, the PC… and remember, you need to see this in the year 1986, quote:
“That computer can do almost anything that man can do. It can make all your gods, all your theories, your rituals; it’s even better at it than you will ever be. So, the computer is coming up in the world; it’s going to make your brains something different. You’ve heard of genetic engineering; they’re trying, whether you like it or not, to change your whole behaviour. That is genetic engineering. They are trying to change your way of thinking. When genetic engineering and the computer meet, what are you? As a human being what are you? Your brains are going to be altered. Your way of behaviour is going to be changed. They may remove fear altogether, remove sorrow, remove all your gods. They’re going to; don’t fool yourself. It all ends up either in war or in death. This is what is happening in the world actually. Genetic engineering on the one side and the computer on the other, and when they meet, as they’re inevitably going to, what are you as a human being? Actually, your brain now is a machine. You are born in India and say: ‘I’m an Indian’ . You are encased in that. You are a machine. Please don’t be insulted. I’m not insulting you. You are a machine which repeats like a computer. Don’t imagine there is something divine in you – that would be lovely – something holy that is everlasting. The computer will say that to you too. So, what is becoming of a human being? What’s becoming of you?”
Everyone will have to work this out for himself, however, I do believe the answer is very much contained in the above Interview of Krishnamurti that I encourage you to watch in your quiet time – and most definitely without ‘pressure’! You will smile when you realize what is meant by this.
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No pressure… ever!
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